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Fisking ALRANZ

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Fisking: A point-by-point refutation of a blog entry or (especially) news story.

On 3 May 2010, the Abortion Law Reform Association of New Zealand (ALRANZ) published their monthly newsletter, with their leading article being entitled "ALRANZ wins website sabotage case". The article was presumably written as a collaboration by former baby-killer and president of the organisation, Margaret Sparrow with Communication Officer, Alison McCulloch. It was designed to bring the dwindling membership of the pro-abortion lobby group up to date with the news about the website that I set up recently, exposing the group. I have already discussed the issue here - read the article if you haven't already, for background to the incident. Below I will go through the article featured in ALRANZ's May Newsletter, point by point.

On 5 November 2009 Andy Moore, National Director of ProLife NZ, a youth oriented anti-abortion group also involved in the stopfamilyplanning consortium, gained rights to the domain name and set up a website there using the US based Web hosting company GoDaddy. The terms of service which clients agree to when setting up a website include: no activities designed to defame, embarrass, harm, abuse, threaten, slander of harass third parties; no activities that are obscene or otherwise objectionable; no activities designed to impersonate the identity of a third party. But as it turns out this means absolutely nothing unless you are a powerful corporation with a team of lawyers. Even when there is obvious violation and a complaint is laid GoDaddy accepts no responsibility and refers the complainant to local enforcement agencies.

I understand that these requirements are standard of web-hosting companies, and are designed to protect them from legal action against themselves. I hadn't read these terms of service, but it is fairly clear that I am breaking them. GoDaddy doesn't care what activities are carried out on their servers so long as they are not breaking any laws; the terms of service are laid out to provide them with immunity from prosecution.

When purchasing the domain name Andy was less than honest. He did not use his own name but hid behind the appellation “mybook.” He did not use his own address but hid behind PO Box 8979 Christchurch which turns out to be the address for the Grace Baptist Church of Christchurch of which he is a member. A letter of complaint to the church elders was not even acknowledged.

When I set up my domain hosting account with Discount Domains, I used the name of a company that I was looking at starting named MyBook. It is acceptable practice to list a domain under its company's name. Long before I purchased the domain name, I purchased another domain name which was for a holiday club which my Church was running. Therefore I used the Church's PO Box number, not wanting to put my own home address online for anyone in the World to ascertain. It was an oversight on my part to register the controversial in the same account to which the holiday program's URL was registered.

ALRANZ found out about the rogue website in February when a supporter wishing to look up something on our website typed in by mistake instead of The viewer was appalled when her screen filled with an offensive picture of what appeared to be a bloodied late-term dead fetus. This is an image that Andy had previously used on his blog starstuddedsuperstep in an article on “What is abortion?” with the caption “abortion at 24 weeks.” He used the same image on his Facebook page boasting about how it may have deterred a young woman from having an abortion. Unlike GoDaddy, Facebook took exception to the image and disabled his account citing an offence against section 3.7 which states: you will not post content that is hateful, threatening, pornographic or that contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence.

I am surprised at ALRANZ's description of the photo of the dead child. (view an archived version of the website here) It is a photo of a 24wk old American baby girl who has been brutally murdered in an abortion. The photo is declared to be offensive and appalling. On 8 February, Sparrow stated that the photo was "pornographic". In 2007, the Abortion Supervisory Committee reported that 105 babies aged 20wks and over were killed by abortion. That is foetuses of a similar age and viability to the foetus pictured in the photo. 19wks is the age of the most premature foetus which has been born and survived. Furthermore, ALRANZ supports total decriminalisation of abortion - no matter what the age of the pre-born child. Therefore I am confounded at their apparent disgust at the photo. Surely it's nothing more than a photo of a terminated pregnancy, or the products of conception?

The account of the Facebook incident is correct, and you can read about that here.

Apart from the overwhelming image the page was set out as if it was the real website with the three female symbols with the words KEEP ABORTION SAFE and the text “Welcome to ALRANZ (Abortion Law Reform Association of New Zealand). We are a pro-choice organisation founded in February 1971 to support reforms which allow a woman to choose whether or not to continue an unplanned pregnancy or to seek an abortion.” Then right at the bottom was the message to CLICK HERE to visit the real ALRANZ website. In February he added text “We support late-term abortions for disabled babies” which clearly misrepresents our standpoint.

A cursory glance at the website will be enough to see that it is clearly not operated by ALRANZ, but has instead been set up by someone who opposes their objectives. I designed the website, drawing on elements from the real ALRANZ site, to create a stronger link - and sarcastically placed the three images, "keep abortion safe" in the bottom-right of the page. I think the point made is pretty clear; how can abortion ever be safe? The CLICK HERE text at the bottom of the page was clearly visible and designed to allow visitors to click through to the real ALRANZ website.

Once again ALRANZ lies about me, stating that I have misrepresented their standpoint on late-term abortions for disabled babies. The text from their February 2007 newsletter reads:

"ALRANZ has for many years protested at the anomaly of our legislation that the grounds for abortions after 20 weeks do not include fetal abnormality. This significant anomaly could be easily rectified by Parliament but politicians seem unaware of the distress caused to parents. It is difficult enough deciding whether or not to abort without worrying whether or not it is a crime."

From this and other documents it is clear that ALRANZ does in fact support decriminalising abortion in the case of foetal anomaly. Anomaly is a nice cute word for disability, and is just another example of the pro-child killing lobby distorting language to try and make their case seem a little more reasonable.

When ALRANZ requested that the site be closed down Andy replied “As an active member of the pro-life movement in New Zealand, I currently have no intention of taking the website down.” GoDaddy and the Grace Baptist Church both failed to intervene. Lawyers we consulted advised making a complaint to the Domain Name Commission (DNC) which handles complaints relating to websites with the suffix .nz via a dispute resolution service.

You can read the entire complaint here. While my original website was arguably unlawful, subsequent to ALRANZ's complaint, I altered the content of the website so that it was no longer a spoof site, but instead an expose site. Among these alterations, I changed the name of the site from "Abortion Law Reform Association of New Zealand" to "Exposing the Abortion Law Reform Association of New Zealand".

On 24 February ALRANZ lodged a formal complaint with the DNC (1) that we had rights to the acronym ALRANZ and (2) that the offending website was an unfair registration. The remedy that we sought was to have the domain name transferred to ALRANZ. To establish the first claim we provided a compendium of articles, pamphlets, and other printed matter demonstrating the widespread acceptance and use of the acronym ALRANZ. Establishing the second claim was more complex. While free speech and vigorous advocacy must be allowed we had to demonstrate that this was not only part of a wider campaign against ALRANZ, but was designed to mislead and deceive internet users and would have been particularly confusing to any young woman seeking information about abortion.

It is categorically untrue that my intention for the website was for it to mislead and deceive internet users. My sole purpose in setting up the website was to expose the organisation for what it clearly is: a proponent of legalised child killing.

Andy received a copy of our complaint and the 42 supporting documents. Ordinarily the respondent will contest the claim and must reply within 15 working days. Then the matter is referred for mediation provided free by the DNC. Andy failed to respond so this course of action was not possible. The next option was for ALRANZ to have the complaint sent to an independent expert at a cost of $1800 + GST. ALRANZ chose to do this and on 29 March an expert lawyer was appointed by the DNC.

I chose not to contest my right to the domain name, due partly to having been very busy with many other pro-life activities such as the successful 2010 South Island March for Life, and also being quite happy with allowing ALRANZ to foot the fairly substantial legal fees. ALRANZ spent $2025, the fee for having an independent expert hired by the Domain Name Commission to decide on the case. As far as I'm concerned, that's 2 grand less for them to be able to spend to promote killing kids.

On 19 April ALRANZ received the 13 page expert opinion with the good news that the complaint was resolved in our favour and that the website would be transferred to ALRANZ on 3 May unless Andy chose to appeal which was unlikely at a cost of $6,000. Even though strictly speaking we do not have a legal right to the acronym ALRANZ (in the sense of a business having a trademark) we had cited an Animal Welfare case similar to ours where a lobby organisation had been deemed to have the right to use a name. Our claim that this was an unfair registration was accepted and Andy’s failure to respond did not help his case. His only communication with the DNC was an email: “Dear John, Have a great week. Andy.”

It is incorrect that this was my only communication with the DNC. In fact I wrote, "Thanks for your email John - have a great week. Regards, Andy".

ALRANZ has purchased six other common suffixes to make it more difficult for imposters to sabotage our website. It is a price we are prepared to pay to discourage malicious or unethical behaviour.

This cost them at least $136.35. With a total of 6 extra domain names that they previously did not need, this is going to cost ALRANZ an extra $136 per year, as domain names incur an annual fee. I spent a mere $31.45 purchasing the domain name, however it has cost ALRANZ at least $2161 in initial outlay, not including their lawyer's fees. This is two grand less per year that the pro-child killing lobby in New Zealand has at their disposal, for the purpose of promoting their lowly, despicable cause. And I really couldn't care less about ALRANZ getting the domain name, because I'm now involved with a new project,Exposing ALRANZ website

At the Exposing ALRANZ website, we're shining the spotlight on the activities and agenda of this organisation and the entire pro-abortion lobby in New Zealand, as well as profiling the people within it. ALRANZ is a pro-abortion extremist group which promotes a strongly anti-life vision for New Zealand. The blood of 400,000 babies killed by abortion before they were born, is crying out and it's time for all those in New Zealand who value life to stand up against ALRANZ and the other pro-abortion groups in New Zealand which are a very vocal minority, pushing for an awful pro-death culture in New Zealand, "our free land"...

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are such a Dick Andy. Has Studylink caught up with you about you ripping the system off yet. Why dont you put all about that in your blog Andy. You are such an embarresment to yourself. So can you grow up.

6:22 pm, May 14, 2010 
Blogger Andy Moore said...

Your spelling is an embarrassment to your university - why don't you address the article instead of making groundless, anonymous accusations? Heh.

3:30 am, May 15, 2010 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't understand how anyone remotely identifying themselves as human can justify the picture of a 24wk old "dead foetus" as not being that of a child. I do not find the image offensive in the least. I do find it disturbing, as it should not be a reality. Even though it is, it shouldn't be, let alone an acceptable one. I do find it offensive that some people actually advocate for the practice and legalisation of abortion in New Zealand. I could go on but suffice to say, my heart breaks...

7:13 pm, May 15, 2010 
Blogger Andrew S said...

Andy, while ethically debateable I think you're intentions were right and that you dealt with it well and fairly. Can it be called defaming when you just tell it like it is? I think not! Unlike the first commentor, I say you're the man!
-oh, you should probably get your own pobox address ay.

1:19 pm, May 16, 2010 
Blogger Andy Moore said...

thanks for the comment Andrew, agreed. Once I heard from ALRANZ that the site was being taken to be misleading, I promptly changed it to better reflect the nature of my goal; to expose ALRANZ.

1:29 am, May 17, 2010 
Blogger Canterbury Atheists said...

Just one question Andy, is The Grace Baptist Church the same as Grace Vineyard Christian Fellowship?



9:09 am, May 17, 2010 
Blogger Andy Moore said...


5:22 am, May 18, 2010 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andy, well I made a spelling mistake. However Andy why don't you answer the question about your entitlement. Have you been ripping the system off or not Andy. Don't avoid the question, did you work and not declare the income and get caught by data matching between Government departments, or not?

You use what ever you can to promote your own cause. You and your sort do not care about people and the hurt you may cause as long as you can promote your own agenda. Very sick Andy and your like minded readers.

So Andy are you a fraudster and will admit it or not, choose honestly Andy for your credibility sake.

7:25 pm, May 18, 2010 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Andrew Herbert Moore, can you confirm that the church you attend, condone and support your behaviour. You attend a very small church in Christchurch and I can only assume you represent there views?

6:52 am, May 20, 2010 
Blogger Andy Moore said...

You didn't ask a question Anon; you made a groundless allegation. A dentist never likes to hurt his patient, but he needs to to help them. Speaking out against the injustice of abortion is not enjoyable, but it is crucial.

To the second Anon; would you make the same assertion about the town I was from, were I from a very small town? i.e., would you assume that I represent the views of my whole town, simply because I was from that town?

don't make me laugh.

1:32 am, May 21, 2010 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh Andy but it isn't groundless is it Andrew Herbert Moore. You are not telling the truth there, you and I both know that. Or maybe you don't yet?, even funnier. Well Andrew Herbert Moore I know for a fact that you are a fraudster. The thing is now Andy is what to do from here, do we expose you as a liar or not. Mmmmm to quote you "good question"

Well Mr Moore I know for a fact that Studylink and the IRD have investigated you, why don't you tell your minority fringe phantom god bothering friends and readers the outcome.

I also wrote the post about your church, it would seem to me that you have no problem using other people to try and further your cause. So do you have an objection to putting your church and their members under the blowtorch to further others views. Hey if it is good enough for you then it would seem a legitimate tactic.

Andrew I do not care about abortion either way, so do not think I am from the pro abortion side. You and your sort really are a blight on society with your behaviour and your justification of your cause to use other peoples situations to highlight your own cause.

6:10 am, May 21, 2010 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Anon,

You fail.

P.S. Ad hominem is a logical fallacy. And questions are indicated by question marks, '?'.

12:04 pm, May 21, 2010 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lol Anon. Fancy words but read the point in the message. Glad you and Andy and your sort are a minority and will always be a minority and fringe. Facts are facts and I invite Andy to prove my assertions are not true, or should I prove they are!

2:02 pm, May 21, 2010 
Blogger Andy Moore said...

facts are facts and assertions are assertions.

2:45 am, May 22, 2010 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andy it would seem to me that you are not answering the "assertion" that you collected a student allowance that you were not entitled to. Why don't you just come out and clear up this situation. Were you investigated and contacted due to data matching and have you committed any fraud?

I think your continual deflection is typical of your behaviour. You are happy to fire crap at people and not really think about the harm or who you use to further your cause, well now you know what it is like to have someone watching your moves back. Please just tell the truth or just go away and shut this blog down Andy because you look even more like a sad little lunatic.

8:47 am, May 22, 2010 
Blogger Andy Moore said...

It's just ridiculous that you expect me to take an assertion from an anonymous commenter on my blog seriously... honestly, haven't you got anything better to do?

7:57 am, May 23, 2010 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andy that is so typical of you. If you had nothing to hide it would be a simple NO I did not and have not. So go on Andy answer no and let me prove you a liar. Your silence speaks volumes!

8:35 am, May 23, 2010 
Blogger Andy Moore said...

go for your life

10:29 am, May 23, 2010 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellant Andrew Herbert Moore I will take that as a confirmation of your admission. Now Andrew you know as well as I do that such an assertion would not have come from no-where, would it! One day I really hope you get a life and join the real world. You really are a joke Andy. No more fraud Andy or I may just have to paste that paperwork all over the place. lol

4:04 pm, May 23, 2010 
Anonymous Sam said...

Anonymous, you really need something better to do with your, getting a life maybe?

4:22 pm, May 23, 2010 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Sam why? You follow a worthless waster. I know Andy and I am only doing an Andy Moore. Great fun as he did commit fraud. I have a copy of the papework. Go pray for me. haha

5:53 pm, May 23, 2010 
Anonymous Jim said...

I think people need to realise that posting under the name 'anonymous' means that you have something to hide, and that you are worried about the ramifications of what you say on your own personal reputation.

If you have a case - put it. Stop hiding behind false names. It's not that hard to put the picture together, work out who you are, and name and shame you.

3:47 pm, May 24, 2010 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey fucktard anon,

Post a link or something to this fuckin' evidence about Andy's apparent fraud. I don't give a shit who you are or whatever bone you are picking with Andy. Just give a (well written, and able to be logically followed) list of Andy's wrongs with regard to Studylink and the IRD, and for each point provide evidence. Else shut the fuck up, or even more eloquently, fuck off and die!

I take it you understand, unfounded assertions nobody gives a shit about, but evidenced wrong doing, we are all interested to see.

Yours Sincerely,
Fucked off Anon
PS. Fuck.
PPS. If you fail to answer what I say and and even think to mention excess use of the word 'fuck', it will fuck me off even more. Bastard.

6:58 pm, May 24, 2010 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha ha ha. That has got to be the funniest posts I have seen. Lotsa of potty words, you sound serious!!! Mmmm shall I provide a link or something, mmmm. Nah I prefer to just wind up Andy with the knowledge that someone totally random knows his personal business. He know's I am correct. Lol you sound scary and angry gosh I would hate to meet a scary person like you. I note you are anon as well, why?

Now I hope you have taken a chill pill and tell me how you feel today, how are your emotions?? What would your mother think of your potty mouth, you should be ashamed. Instead of my having to prove it, why can't Andy just say. No these assertions are not true. I just would like Andy to say that.

Oh and anon put your name and location up if you want me take you serious.

8:55 pm, May 24, 2010 
Anonymous Jim said...

Show me the evidence or I will name and shame you Anon.

Stop hiding behind false names to protect yourself from ramifications of your blatant lies. If you are telling the truth - show us the truth.

9:34 pm, May 24, 2010 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good job Andy.

12:39 pm, May 30, 2010 
Anonymous Sam said...

Anonymous, you clearly don't know Andy as well as you think you do. If you have something to prove, then prove it. Simple as that. And if you really have solid evidence, you wouldn't be announcing it in a blog comment, now would you?

5:57 pm, May 30, 2010 

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